What about spam login filter is causing the problem? language file?

i don't know presently, the errors are no longer logged when i disabled it and reappear when i re-enable it

There was indeed a character in the language file in that plugin.  I submitted a pull request to the author on github to correct the issue.

Thanks Steve and ura soul for the pointers in the right direction.  the json errors were annoying.

I have determined that when I activate the hypeFramework plugin 1.8.5 this extra comma appears.

So I figured out how to list the order of plugins

elgg_generate_plugin_entities();
$installed_plugins = elgg_get_plugins();

Any word on how to intially set the order so I dont have to order them everytime I reinstall?

Thanks.

Every action in Elgg needs security tokens. Its not possible to use the firstlink. You need to pass tokens for every actions. See the documentation @ http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Actions

Thanks!

I am using a link at the top of my site using 'action/logout' and it seems to work perfectly ok. I have been logging in and out with that. I will check out the link and do it proper though.

You can simply use 'order_by' => 'rand()' 

That was easy Ismayil, thanks.

@ Ismayil

Great I knew there was a simple solution! I will try this out.

@ gillie

Thanks for your suggestions!