http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Administration_Manual

I click @

Dealing with a problem user

it tries to goto

http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Dealing_with_a_problem_user&action=edit

and wham permission error ;-(

You are so right !!!

new developers and hackers will have problems..

Maybe the Docs could have a little section section to warn them that SimpleCache can and will give them trouble if they do not handle it well ;-)

The wiki is locked down and you have to ask permission to edit: "If you are using Elgg and would like to help us with documentation, please get in touch info@elgg.com"

To me, another advantage of a seperate interface as noted above is the ability to -minimize- that interface. In other words, you can retheme it to JUST show content, in a bald, simple way. No flashy graphics. Rapid loading time means rapid response. If mods have to view the same site as users, they are limited to navigating at the same -speed- as users... which can have certain disadvantages.

Mind, I'm not suggesting levels specifically, per se. You could have a roles system with my suggestion, and name your own "levels" based on saved roles profiles.

But I still think splitting users and managers is wise for security. It works -brilliantly- in MODx.

Ah I see it now Dagorath.

What you need is a better, faster interface for management, which can list / display / edit the content faster and easier. Like better lists, grouping, sorting, filtering, multiple edits, mass operations etc. It's the administration pages. You (we) ideally need more functionality on content, users and system in this section. Like more detailed ajax listings for content, customizable columns, mass find / replace, mass delete etc with multiple selections etc. 

Actually the interface is there, it just needs more functionality which should be invented by addons for their own content. The only difference is, content pages, which normal users can see are not prohibited to management, but this can be achieved with role permissions too. And for graphics & html, we can already use a simpler, lighter theme for management.

and ... what happened with this project  ?? :-) any luck after 800 something days?

To me, another advantage of a seperate interface as noted above is the ability to -minimize- that interface. In other words, you can retheme it to JUST show content, in a bald, simple way. No flashy graphics. Rapid loading time means rapid response. If mods have to view the same site as users, they are limited to navigating at the same -speed- as users... which can have certain disadvantages.

Mind, I'm not suggesting levels specifically, per se. You could have a roles system with my suggestion, and name your own "levels" based on saved roles profiles.

But I still think splitting users and managers is wise for security. It works -brilliantly- in MODx.

Ah I see it now Dagorath.

What you need is a better, faster interface for management, which can list / display / edit the content faster and easier. Like better lists, grouping, sorting, filtering, multiple edits, mass operations etc. It's the administration pages. You (we) ideally need more functionality on content, users and system in this section. Like more detailed ajax listings for content, customizable columns, mass find / replace, mass delete etc with multiple selections etc. 

Actually the interface is there, it just needs more functionality which should be invented by addons for their own content. The only difference is, content pages, which normal users can see are not prohibited to management, but this can be achieved with role permissions too. And for graphics & html, we can already use a simpler, lighter theme for management.

and ... what happened with this project  ?? :-) any luck after 800 something days?

Is this this address you're using? http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

This is the one i was using - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page - Let me try this - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

Yeah thats found to work - thanks

Is this this address you're using? http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

This is the one i was using - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page - Let me try this - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

Yeah thats found to work - thanks

Is this this address you're using? http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

This is the one i was using - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page - Let me try this - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

Yeah thats found to work - thanks

Is this this address you're using? http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

This is the one i was using - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page - Let me try this - http://docs.elgg.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup

Yeah thats found to work - thanks

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Sorry Shawn.  I had the wrong permissions on the post.  Check the group again and you'll see it!

The link returns me to the homepage as well. Either the post was deleted or it is not accessible to everyone.

Meh this link is incorrect now.  Here is the correct link: http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=212238&group_guid=212067

Hello Cash,

I did a quick review, its so much better, nice work.

I would suggest to add the specific instructions in regards to working with CSS, since this is a very common stumbling block for new developers and designers. Something like:

Important Note: Whenever working with plugins, specially views and CSS, please make sure that you disable the views cache system in the administration section, and delete the view_paths the file in your files folder.

Also, it would be nice to mention the SVN, Trac, and where to find a roadmap of new features in Elgg, so that programmer doesn't endeavor for a plugin too passionately if its already being developed as core.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa

Thanks, Uddhava - I tried to address your concerns. No luck on the roadmap since it doesn't exist right now.

Sounds good. Hopefully more people will add good content to the docs.

Hello Cash,

I did a quick review, its so much better, nice work.

I would suggest to add the specific instructions in regards to working with CSS, since this is a very common stumbling block for new developers and designers. Something like:

Important Note: Whenever working with plugins, specially views and CSS, please make sure that you disable the views cache system in the administration section, and delete the view_paths the file in your files folder.

Also, it would be nice to mention the SVN, Trac, and where to find a roadmap of new features in Elgg, so that programmer doesn't endeavor for a plugin too passionately if its already being developed as core.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa

Thanks, Uddhava - I tried to address your concerns. No luck on the roadmap since it doesn't exist right now.

Sounds good. Hopefully more people will add good content to the docs.

Hello Cash,

I did a quick review, its so much better, nice work.

I would suggest to add the specific instructions in regards to working with CSS, since this is a very common stumbling block for new developers and designers. Something like:

Important Note: Whenever working with plugins, specially views and CSS, please make sure that you disable the views cache system in the administration section, and delete the view_paths the file in your files folder.

Also, it would be nice to mention the SVN, Trac, and where to find a roadmap of new features in Elgg, so that programmer doesn't endeavor for a plugin too passionately if its already being developed as core.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa

Thanks, Uddhava - I tried to address your concerns. No luck on the roadmap since it doesn't exist right now.

Sounds good. Hopefully more people will add good content to the docs.

Hello Cash,

I did a quick review, its so much better, nice work.

I would suggest to add the specific instructions in regards to working with CSS, since this is a very common stumbling block for new developers and designers. Something like:

Important Note: Whenever working with plugins, specially views and CSS, please make sure that you disable the views cache system in the administration section, and delete the view_paths the file in your files folder.

Also, it would be nice to mention the SVN, Trac, and where to find a roadmap of new features in Elgg, so that programmer doesn't endeavor for a plugin too passionately if its already being developed as core.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa

Thanks, Uddhava - I tried to address your concerns. No luck on the roadmap since it doesn't exist right now.

Sounds good. Hopefully more people will add good content to the docs.

Hello Cash,

I did a quick review, its so much better, nice work.

I would suggest to add the specific instructions in regards to working with CSS, since this is a very common stumbling block for new developers and designers. Something like:

Important Note: Whenever working with plugins, specially views and CSS, please make sure that you disable the views cache system in the administration section, and delete the view_paths the file in your files folder.

Also, it would be nice to mention the SVN, Trac, and where to find a roadmap of new features in Elgg, so that programmer doesn't endeavor for a plugin too passionately if its already being developed as core.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa

Thanks, Uddhava - I tried to address your concerns. No luck on the roadmap since it doesn't exist right now.

Sounds good. Hopefully more people will add good content to the docs.

Hello Cash,

I did a quick review, its so much better, nice work.

I would suggest to add the specific instructions in regards to working with CSS, since this is a very common stumbling block for new developers and designers. Something like:

Important Note: Whenever working with plugins, specially views and CSS, please make sure that you disable the views cache system in the administration section, and delete the view_paths the file in your files folder.

Also, it would be nice to mention the SVN, Trac, and where to find a roadmap of new features in Elgg, so that programmer doesn't endeavor for a plugin too passionately if its already being developed as core.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa

Thanks, Uddhava - I tried to address your concerns. No luck on the roadmap since it doesn't exist right now.

Sounds good. Hopefully more people will add good content to the docs.