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  • alhamdulillah replied on the discussion topic You must log in to post replies.
    Thank you very much my friend Can be installed in blogs view reply
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  • alhamdulillah added a new discussion topic You must log in to post replies.
      Hi Hello my friends How can I put in my site You must log in to post replies. Such as Elgg Thank you very much الحمد لله : My site uses ELGG 1.2 You must log in to post replies.    
  • Herb replied on the discussion topic Just set up Joomla as a test and like Elgg better so far
    I have to say after a bit of testing I am liking Elgg much better...community builder for Joomla may extend it but Elgg is still far superior at least at this point for my needs anyway..for one there are imgur and izap video plugs that help... view reply
  • iionly replied on the discussion topic Just set up Joomla as a test and like Elgg better so far
    Development might have slowed down but not stopped. And I don't think that it will stop in the foreseeable future. As there are only a few active developers the activity goes up and down depending on the available time of the devs. Just as it... view reply
  • It depends on what you want to build.  I work with Elgg, Drupal, Ionic, and have dabbled in Laravel and (blech) Wordpress.  They're all different tools for different jobs. The active development has certainly slowed down lately, I... view reply
  • Herb added a new discussion topic Just set up Joomla as a test and like Elgg better so far
    I just set up a test server with Joomla and so far I like Elgg better but am worried Elgg may go obsolete due to recent discussions I have read so I am testing other apps and will test Drupal as well. Any input would be appreciated and yes I...
    • It depends on what you want to build.  I work with Elgg, Drupal, Ionic, and have dabbled in Laravel and (blech) Wordpress.  They're all different tools for different jobs.

      The active development has certainly slowed down lately, I know I have been extremely busy with personal life and simply haven't had the time I used to put in.  That said, the latest version of Elgg is very good and I wouldn't hesitate to build something with it.  In fact I'm working on some high level projects for some very large companies using Elgg currently.  I wouldn't take the slowdown to mean it's not a useful or supported product.

    • Development might have slowed down but not stopped. And I don't think that it will stop in the foreseeable future. As there are only a few active developers the activity goes up and down depending on the available time of the devs. Just as it happens there has been quite a lot activity within the last few days.

      Even with development stalling or stopping Elgg wouldn't get "obsolete" suddenly. It would still be possible to continue to use it - and all 3rd party plugins - as they would be at that time. And even then you (or other developers) could continue the development at any time because everything is open source.

      Joompla, Drupal, Wordpress are CMS and therefore they have surely a different use than Elgg. Which system fits best depends on what you want to achieve. Can you get what you want with Elgg? Does it fits you needs? Or does any of the other systems fits your needs better. I would make a decision based on that - the presence - and not necessarily on what might or might not happen in the future.

    • I have to say after a bit of testing I am liking Elgg much better...community builder for Joomla may extend it but Elgg is still far superior at least at this point for my needs anyway..for one there are imgur and izap video plugs that help keep disk size to a minimum which Joomla doesn't have as far as I can see and there are many other plugs for Elgg which extend it even farther so I am happy to see Elgg is being worked on this last little while and hope it stays current for the forseeable future. I am not a coder so there isn't much I have to offer but I do appreciate the work others put into it ...not that appreciation accounts for much in this day and age..but my thanx to all involved

  • Steve Clay replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    Cool. Let's end this thread. view reply
  • Michele replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    @Ismayil, @Steve I don't understand if you're referring to my post or Tom's. If to me....well, I'd love to be able to do the initial research which technically I can't. I understand it would be a big effort but if devs join... view reply
  • Steve Clay replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    If Elgg being able to use a WordPress theme is a goal, I suggest you put in the initial research work for that would entail. Take an average (whatever that means) theme and see all the functions it uses and all the logic required to execute its... view reply
  • Ismayil Khayredinov replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    And there we go again... view reply
  • Tom replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    @Michele, you are 100 % right on the theme part. Nowadays both developers and site owners are working on a tight budget and developers are working on tight time schedule. Wordpress has scored well when it comes to designing themes. The best way... view reply
  • Michele replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    Since it's a long time I haven't said something really stupid...here's a big one. I think themeing is a huge issue. Fact is designers don't want to learn about Elgg's themeing peculiarities so... would it be possible to code a plugin to convert... view reply
  • Michele replied on the discussion topic I quit the core team, here is why
    Sad Ismayil...for the whole Elgg community and especially for you. I know you love Elgg and would like to see it much better so it must have been an hard, painful decision. I'd like to do much more as customer...but everything depends on how... view reply
  • @ura soul, lol. You are absolutely right in your analysis about money or currencies and many other topics you have raised before and even today. Old and new Elgg developers and designers should not wait for 'celebrities' to come a long and... view reply
  • Ponzi schemes, by definition, involve a system where the system absolutely requires new users to be involved for the system to continue. In the case of Steem, that is not true since the new coins that are used to pay people come in response to the... view reply
  • I understand that Steem blockchain (Monetary system) has two tokens: Steem Dollars and Steem as a form of money system. When Steem started in earlier days (March 2016), it began using a highly inflationary supply model monetary system. They paid... view reply
  • I have been using the relatively new network at https://www.steemit.com to blog and connect with people. It's based on blockchain technology so it is distributed and also has it's own cryptocurrency built in. It's still in beta so it is...
    • I understand that Steem blockchain (Monetary system) has two tokens: Steem Dollars and Steem as a form of money system.

      When Steem started in earlier days (March 2016), it began using a highly inflationary supply model monetary system. They paid their users roughly double every year!

      However, on December 6th, 2016 as the demand from their community users increased, Steemit changed their own inflation rate from 9.5 % per year and reduced by 0.5 % per year.

      I watched when Steemit was launched in March 2016. For me Steemit smells like a Ponzi scheme. For example, Even though Steem as a form of cryptocurrencies has disrupted Bitcoin usage as a form of digital currency, Steem business model will continue to grow and grow to a point that there will be fewer new users of Steem and finally it will collapse. That is how Ponzi schemes normally goes or end.

      Unless these forms of cryptocurrencies are supported secretly by government entities or “New world Order systems” as forms of future currencies that will be used as universally accepted form of digital currencies, these form of currencies are likely to run in trouble or collapse.

      I am not against the Steem or any form cryptocurrencies, but it is nice to point out some of the cryptocurrencies concerns so that future Elgg users who might be interested in Elgg and steemit integration will know what they are getting into or signing for!

      I think for Elgg ignition part, most of the users who could be actively using elgg by now might have been frustrated by few things and moved to test other scripts like Wordpress, Dolphin, Oxwall, pH7CMS, Jcow, Open Source Social Network, Beatz, Etano, PeoplePods, HumHub, Family Connections, GNU social, UNA, Bitrix24, MangoApps, Intelli Enterprise, Yammer, Workplace by Facebook, Jive, BuddyPress, Igloo, Axero, and many more.

      Here are a few things that might have frustrated our former developers and users.

      1. In the past there was a lot of verbal fighting here on the community.
      2. The verbal fighting affected our customer service to new plugin developers and core developers.
      3. Also the core developers disagreement might have created uncertainty in the minds of the former users who did not know how long Elgg was going to last or if they chose Elgg application and start building their users and Elgg got discontinued due to lack of developers or plugin developers, the active site owners could have been forced to change to other Elgg alternatives if the Elgg core or major plugins were abandoned by developers.
      4. The Elgg hosting companies also were not friendly to our past Elgg site owners or admins who were either testing or learning Elgg on shared hosting accounts and as a result there are very few Elgg based sites that are actively running.
      5. The Wordpress wave swept through Elgg Land and most of our former users switched to make money on wordpress based sites plugins.
      6. Former Elgg developers moved on for various reasons and other users forked elgg and developed it into Minds and Open Source Social Network applications.
      7. The spamming attack did not help either, unlike in WordPress, the Elgg sites admins were bombarded by spam attacks and this might have frustrated some of our former Elgg sites admins.
      8. There might be other issues that i might not have covered that others might be familiar with.

      Moving forward, As Elgg community continues to add more new users, Elgg stands in a better position to grow and even get its old users back even though there are fewer developers at the moment.

       

    • Ponzi schemes, by definition, involve a system where the system absolutely requires new users to be involved for the system to continue. In the case of Steem, that is not true since the new coins that are used to pay people come in response to the rising value of the currency and not purely due to new users joining the system. In other words, a ponzi scheme literally requires new investors to come and buy into the system for anyone to make any money at all, whereas with steem, the system can continue very nicely provided that the value of the currency increases. I do see what you are saying and I share some related concerns.. However, for me, I don't consider steem to be any worse than any other existing currency - since ALL currencies are somewhat similar to ponzi schemes - it's just that their initial growth phase occurred long before we were born and the new members that are brought into the pyramids are our children, who usually never even realise this is occurring!

      I would much rather evolve humans away from money altogether, but not many share my direction at this point and it looks to me like as with so many other topics, most people ignore the calls made by me and others like me until a 'celebrity' comes along and says the same thing to them! lol

    • @ura soul, lol. You are absolutely right in your analysis about money or currencies and many other topics you have raised before and even today. Old and new Elgg developers and designers should not wait for 'celebrities' to come a long and say the idea you have brought up nor should people ingnore the concept about integrating Elgg and Steem. We got the working material in Elgg Engine to accomplish things that we have not imagined.

      The first command is for us to go out and create. I say this because there are several people online who are looking for open source scripts that have been created that they might use or slide into or there are some developers who might be waiting for the jobs to call them.

      If there is no Elgg core tools or Elgg plugins created we should make it. If all the things a developer would like to see In Elgg are not there we should build it ourselves. Do not wait for anybody else to do it.

      Our developers should know this. I wish I was told this when I graduated! Whatever salary that one gets,  he or she is getting the end of the stake! This is what I mean, essentially when you are employed by a company you are creating time for money. In other words, one is trading time which is an entity that cannot be replenished for cash which is an entity that can be replenished. So, no matter how much money someone is making, time needs to be the most valuable thing that one can get from education or learning.

      So our users and developers should approach time with agency. Most of us are young and strong but do not have time to waste. It is time to create and produce new plugins and Elgg core tools.

  • RvR added a new discussion topic Elgg on Telegram
    Join to just created channel https://t.me/elggnews Any ideas and thoughts are welcome :)
  • Jerome Bakker replied on the discussion topic Elgg Community Major Security Flaw
    I have included community.elgg.org in our Let's Encrypt certificate and the issue should now be solved view reply
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