the big problem with elgg sites - imo

I posted this on a previous topic http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=47302&group_guid=15815 but thought i would start a new one to see what Elggerinos think about in a more general sense

the big problem with elgg sites is the way the topbar hides up there as in an application in widows or mac, it is not inviting to user to click in the differnt sections and look around. it is differnt from most sites so it is somewhat disorientating for people to find their way in it.

 

for example.

when one enters a site, like the elgg community, you have a "featured groups" widget up there. ok so you can see the featured groups. but what if you want to see all the groups. you must go to tools and then click groups. this is not intuitive. it is logical once you understand how elgg functions. but i would find myself browsing the differnt groups out there much more often if there was a nice button on the start page that said "groups". even better would be to include a link to the various tools pages on each widget. so in the "featered groups" title there would be  a "groups" icon that would take you to the groups page.

 

what i am saying fundamentally is that the topbar is not intuitive enough, and that much of the site goes hidden to the new user, and it is a bit confused even for the regular user.

 

instead of seeing a button and on the fly making a detour to check it out, one has to premeditate what they want to see and then go and pick it out from the drop down.

i also find that in other aspects of elgg sites i want to click on the widgets to get places. for example in the General Discussion group, i want to click on the "latest discussion" widget to be able to see a list of the discussions and be able to post a new one, now i must remember to go over and click the the gorup discussion link on the left in order to ge there.

 

the "latest discussion" widget, gives a window view into the group discussion area. i want to in a sense climb through the window to get in the house, rather than going around to get in the door. this applies to the topbar and groups page that i mentioned earlier as well.

your thoughts elgg world?