Brett, I understand. There are some other issues I'll have to revist that are a bit bothersome. I'm sure I'll also continue to post my findings here. Trac is a good thing, but I'd bet that many of us never view it, and I think it's valuable to offer and discuss issues as publicly as possible. I don't like surprises. I know there are bugs, I just like to know where and when they might pop up. And I encourage others to share. I started playing with elgg at ver .9. Finally I feel comfortable enough to launch a few sites. This is good.