Woodward, Goofers..
you make feel a little bad re: my 'bragging" about FBFK ;-) @ 22974 right now !!!
I'm just starting this little topic for all to come moan about their 50 - 100 userbase ;-(
NOW: SERIOUS STUFF::=
There are many theories on how to attract a large userbase to a social networking website. I bellieve that FBFK's "success" is a coincidence, a social black hole that was filled up initially purely accidently to keep MJ's 5-yr old off the other FB !!.. if you could only read how MJ has explained privately to me.. about how FBFK started...
Have a read thru these --
Much good reading, esp the second one by Ben from a while back, before he left Elgg.com
My small points are that a Social Network will not attract a userbase just because I have created it using Elgg (or whatever) as a super-duper pkg with oodles of neat plugins !!! A social networking site will only be "successfull" when it satisfies a certain "hunger" people have for "something" on the internet. And that hunger is *not to simply be a user on an Elgg (or other) SocNet web-site.
That hunger is a far more personal and human psychology factor. Why do we go to bars ? Why do we join Tennis Clubs ? Why do we join dance clubs ? Why did we join this Elgg community ? Humans need to communicate their thoughts, feelings, sometime just have a need to to another human person...
Am I making this too heavy and academic ?
A successful social web site depends on a lot of **human factors, not just software and plugins alone.. That is one reason there are so many $5 hosting accounts owned by those who think they will be the next Facebook or Myspace, while the hosts are making $5 x NNNNN per month ;-)
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22974 ha ha ha keep rubbing it in! :)
But seriously.
What it really comes down to is the following:
People will join my elgg site (insert your site name here) if they think that it will enhance their lives in some way in the foreseeable future.
This can mean many things but in general helping people in some way or another makes your site sticky!
At least I'm not obsessed with obtaining large numbers. I think I would freak out if I had more than a few hundred.
Joshua Schachter, the creator of Delicious, has this to say:
Words that are very true.
@Dhrup no your not making it too heavy and academic.
Understanding what we can do with ELGG requires many of use to fill the shoes of several different roles beyond developer... I noticed in one your post you you stated how you were getting good at marketting. But the truth is, right now, in the era of infancy and the web, this is the modern day gold rush. This has been true about the internet since it became a public playground.
Someday the web won't change radically in what is possible every time turn around. Today that constant transition is the opprotunity of a lifetime for a good many of us, including myself. I want to make a mint, donate something back to ELGG (because dude, they deserve it) and die knowing my family can eat several generations later.
So understanding this process is huge. One thing I am in the midst of doing with cryspace.com (a network for social support groups) is thinking of how much social media is just really subcultures, and using the connectivity between facebook and things like twiter enhances the overall experience of the average user online simply because it makes it easy to become involved. One extra step I have taken was creating a fan page on facebook, as part of this process, and instaneously, cryspace is starting to appear in all my friends home page on facebook. This works for free.
I believe the best course for what I build is take advantage of win-win plans that really work with how the mass user works. I have no inclination of taking from facebook or any entity that inspires me to provide a fluid path between what I do and what they do, rather that its an opprotunity to provide a subculture in this universe.
I personally adopt the HCTS method in marketing and expanding membership numbers...
What is HCTS you ask...
Well, it is when you have one member and you ask them to send a message to everyone they know.. that message reads:
Ha ha ha ha!
that is a very effective way to do things. lol.
@Carlos why do I have the feeling i would never want to be in a contest of who could drink who under the table with you?
oh D, I am very happy to hear of FBFK's success. It's very wonderful and I hope more and more come and have a safe place. This is a great thing, good and great go hand in hand. I hope you and MJ report bad you have built the most successful kid safe enviroment on the internet.
Jess
@Zak... LOL... thank you amigo.. you give me hope that I'm still good at least at one thing..LOL
On a serious note.. and I believe we talked about this before.. Social Networking success is reliant, to the larger extent, on a niche, sprinkle a little clever touches here and there, and you're sure to succeed.
FBFK has no way to go but success... it has become every parent's nightemere to think that their children are being victimised over the web... this is because cheildren are being victimised on the web.. and we know about it, thanks to our friends in the media.. therefore, FBFK is an expolit of the main stream social networks.. It detected an opportunity, which is kid's security, and capitalised on that opportunity, very successfully I may add.. this along with a very clever name, ensured that Adult facebook users, who see all kind of shit on the web, are now keen to have their kids on FBFK because they wont be exposed to the shit their parents experience.... So, tell me, why wouldn't a smart concept like this one work..??
FBFK will have more than 250,000 by 2010.. and It would not surprise me if schools start promoting it for students.. in which case, MJ over there will wave hello to us as he passes by in his Ferari.
I absolutely agree with you Carlos
First thing i did (which oddly coincided with my friend's daughter's request for a facebook account) when I saw all the deserved hype for FBFK was let my friend know about something for her to take advantage of online.
This is a good and much needed place online and I am glad its doing so well.
@Carlos Don't be ridiculous Ferrari What a bunch of ****
To think I would be so ostentatious, gaudy, and crass
Ferrari indeed how uncouth, how common.
Only a lamborghini would do
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