@Shillo

The database does have a record of changes.. I 1/2 forget the details.... but I once broke mt local test elgg like that, cried a bit, went in thru PhpMyAdmin and manually "rolled-back" the changes.

mmm, let me try that. :)

@Shillo

nope, not yet..;-(

If UD can supply a little more on "..more details of the Guid object y.." might help in reading the code.

Ok, I will wait for Ud and u?

Hi Shillo and Dhrup,

Ok, here's the procedure to make plugin settings go wild, if you can't replicate, i'll do a video to make it easier.

You need 4 plugins:

logrotate
event_calendar
izap_videos
siteaccess

Procedure is as follows:

1) Change the frequency parameter in logrotate and save.
2) Change anything in event_calendar
3) By now, Izap_videos lost its settings
4) change anything in izap_videos and save
5) After saving Izap, Site Access looses its settings (walled garden listing for example)

So this makes it even worse, because there is a chain damage effect.

The GUID Tool shows these elements:

[GUID:2554] ElggPlugin plugin izap_videos
by Uddhava dasa 5 minutes ago [Export Delete]

[GUID:2553] ElggPlugin plugin event_calendar
by Uddhava dasa 5 minutes ago [Export Delete]

[GUID:2552] ElggPlugin plugin logrotate

Then, after everything is lost, you can delete the izap_videos in the GUID tool , and your siteaccess settings are recovered (and izap settings lost again).

Regards,
Uddhava

btw yet another topic os same problem.. even more interesting reading..

http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=127008&group_guid=23300

also: I am not blaming any particular PlugIn yet - it might be just another "quirk" due the sequence of events.. and the mix of too many PlugIins... but there's no conclusive evidence so far...

By the way, I just chanced upon this:

http://community.elgg.org/mod/groups/topicposts.php?topic=127008&group_guid=23300

So, were you able to replicate the problem ?

Ud, I am not using any of the plugins you have mentioned, and at any rate I can't enter into my site admin -- the login provision is gone :( though I can see the site loaded to display the main page in a wide single column.

I am wondering from where does Elgg get the info whether a certain plugin is loaded.

Shillo,

I agree with your thoughts. The GUID tool is somewhat useful for finding plugin settings. But a good understanding of database structure, would really bring administrators to the next level.

This plugin problem seems "too complicated" because of the use of entities, metastrings, and such. But a good understanding of database structure easily would solve this ignorance.

Regards,
Uddhava dasa