Dear Evan,
I really like (offline,realtime,mobile....) Option for elgg.. My suggestion would be can't we start working on above feature right now instead of focusing on feature as you mentioned above.. What I think it’s going to increase our community reach and solve problem for lot more than just a social network.. what I understood from elgg it’s a good framework to star with and then you can modify it to lot more for e.g I used elgg in my social blog site I moved from WordPress to elgg(which I had from last 5years) I can see the power of elgg over wordpress and many open source software... I used elgg in at least three of my start-ups they all are working good ( FYI one have 3lakhs+ used monthly and that to on 1.8.9 with blast response time I modified lot of core code according to me).. I and my team researched\worked on lot of open source.. But I found elgg is one of the best.. But that is lacking in integration for smart phone.. elgg API not good :(.. I have used new responsive theme from 1.9 but it’s really pain to use in this in mobile\Ipad\Tab its deadly slow and maintenance is killing me :( .. i know me my team does not have much expert in responsive UI but responsive is not the solution for all other device type..
My suggestion would be for 2014.
I really think any community needs lots more people (I don’ think 30 contributers,217 plugin, 2000 commits is good number ) otherwise in near future elgg is going to die becoz it have just focus on social network .. Even the core idea for elgg was also not just social network.. and more people means we can get our goal for 2.0 version hope fully this year only :) :) :)
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- Evan Winslow@ewinslow
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- Rely on third-party projects to provide those features (which we will start doing more with 1.10)
- Make the plugin and site development experience awesome so developers can easily add the features that need to be custom-built for Elgg.
- v06@new_hero
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You must log in to post replies.Me too. But dreaming is not the same as implementing :).
Work has in fact already begun. However, work is not going to be sustainable unless we ship 1.9 and figure out how to get releases out the door much quicker. That means introducing fewer bugs, streamlining the release process itself, and perhaps changing our support policy slightly.
Which parts? Is it a general thing or some specific instances? The Elgg API surface is very large (which is a weakness, IMO), so it's hard to know what you're referring to here.
It's killing us, too. I'd like low-maintenance to be a big focus going forward (for everyone involved: core team, developers, admins, end users).
Agreed that Elgg is useful for a lot more than social networking. Changing how we pitch Elgg is not a small undertaking, but I think we could focus on "social web applications" moreso than "social networking". Networking is just one thing you can do with a social web application. In fact, "social" itself is probably a useless and overloaded term by now. What are we really saying when we say "social"? Basically just that you log in, see other people's activity, share content.
Great! Have you added them to the showcase? We'd like to continue growing that to attract more people to the platform.
Definitely going to be a focus going forward.
Need better docs in general, yes.
Yup.
My competetive spirit definitely would like to be "the best", but frankly that shouldn't be a goal in itself. We should focus on meeting well the needs of the people that want to use our software. I'm a developer wanting to use Elgg and I feel like I constantly run into issues with it and it slows me down in a lot of frustrating ways. We don't have big corporate funding like other projects so the only way to get more of the features you're talking about is to:
This is FUD.
We'll see. I'd like that very much but there's a lot of work to do and I haven't even discussed my ideas with the other team members yet. There's a lot of details to work out still. Fortunately there's also a lot of movement in external communities for these same kinds of goals, so my hope is that we'll be able to just piggyback on their work and just pull everything together into a cohesive story moreso than implementing it all ourselves.
@evan thanks man