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  • Nikolai Shcherbin commented on the plugin Verification
    Thanks for reporting. This property doesn't affect the default Elgg layout but only custom layouts. I specifically set z-index = 2 so that it can be changed in custom plugins to a higher or lower value. Anyway, CSS tricks works.
  • elggnoob commented on the plugin Verification
    Hello Nikolai, thank you for this plugin. I find it useful and particularly like the blue verified icon. Regarding this icon, I have a purely informational tidbit for you which you might or might not find interesting: I'm currently...
  • C0Rrupt replied on the discussion topic Mods as Plugins
    I call plugins 'mods' because they're modules in the 'mod' directory, along with many core functions.  I thought that it would be sensible for all functions that operate as modules to be modular. "All important... view reply
  • C0Rrupt replied on the discussion topic Mods as Plugins
    I call plugins 'mods' because they're modules in the 'mod' directory, along with many core functions.  I thought that it would be sensible for all functions that operate as modules to be modular.  Your... view reply
  • Nikolai Shcherbin replied on the discussion topic Mods as Plugins
    Nearly two years ago This was discussion about community Ui not about plugins. This is reminiscent of my concern about plugins.  Besides, aren't all mods plugins? Shouldn't all mods be plugins? What plugins are you... view reply
  • C0Rrupt replied on the discussion topic Mods as Plugins
    Nearly two years ago, you @Shcherbin, Nikolai, posted 'Elgg Community Future' in this discussion forum bemoaning that, "The current Elgg community core and UI are outdated Elgg community is still on Elgg 2. This puts off many new... view reply
  • Nikolai Shcherbin replied on the discussion topic Mods as Plugins
    No one will update plugins except those who developed them. Or it should be done by enthusiasts. This is not a problem for the core developers. The guys are already doing a lot of work to keep Elgg running. view reply
  • Would I be able to get the message and notifications icons shown in media view with this code or do I have to separate the $search and $site_menu nonetheless?  In my example, I just hid them under the navbar. Note: topbar has 2... view reply
  • but where do the actual links come from, e.g. to settings or profile? From register, menu:topbar event.  You can find all files using Developer Tools -> Inspect -> Events If I would want to add a link to that menu, where... view reply
  • C0Rrupt added a new discussion topic Mods as Plugins in the group Feedback and Planning
    I realize that a lot of work goes into the development and refinement of the elgg version package; however, the age and staleness of Plugins makes it seem like the product itself is not actively maintained.  I would really like to be able...
    • Nearly two years ago

      This was discussion about community Ui not about plugins.

      This is reminiscent of my concern about plugins.  Besides, aren't all mods plugins? Shouldn't all mods be plugins?

      What plugins are you talking about?

      All important plugins are supported by the few developers who are on Elgg.

      The rest of the unsupported plugins have either lost their relevance or are not needed by users.

      If the developer abandoned the project, why would anyone work on it?

      iionly wrote a good post about this problem, please search the community for similar whiny discussions ("Elgg is dying ... blah blah blah")

      If you can't find the plugins you need here, look for them in the repositories on GitHub or somewhere else.

      We created a channel in Telegram, where we regularly posted information about the release of all plugins from all sources, both paid and free.

      P.S. Why do you call plugins "mods"? There are no mods in Elgg, only plugins.

    • I call plugins 'mods' because they're modules in the 'mod' directory, along with many core functions.  I thought that it would be sensible for all functions that operate as modules to be modular.  Your response is disheartening, especially as such a cold dismissal of a reasonable suggestion from a long-time elgg enthusiast.  My suggestion is good-natured and well-intentioned.  It's not whiny.  But it does disincline me from contributing back to an uninviting, insular community who seems to not want my contribution.

    • I call plugins 'mods' because they're modules in the 'mod' directory, along with many core functions.  I thought that it would be sensible for all functions that operate as modules to be modular.

      "All important plugins are supported by the few developers who are on Elgg. The rest of the unsupported plugins have either lost their relevance or are not needed by users." ignores both the example that I provided and the need that I expressed.  I wish you wouldn't be so dismissive in the face of direct evidence to the contrary.

      Your response is disheartening, especially as such a cold dismissal of a reasonable suggestion from a long-time elgg enthusiast.  My suggestion is good-natured and well-intentioned.  It's not whiny.  But it does disincline me from contributing back to an uninviting, insular community who seems to not want my contribution.

  • elggnoob replied on the discussion topic Notification and E-Mail icons in topbar for mobile view?
    Thanks for the start. I decided to post my train of thought here, because there is so little up-to-date information for Elgg 6 available online, and I thought that maybe my noob topics help others in the future. Someone please correct me, if... view reply
  • Scott replied on the discussion topic No CSS applied to site
    Thanks for the quick reply, Nikolai! Unfortunately, my problem persists. Doing the .. disable-cache, upgrade, enable-cache, upgrade .. all seemed to succeed (no errors), but the CSS is still missing. The permissions on my data directory look... view reply
  • You'll need a looot of CSS customization. Start with this snippet from our custom plugin: <?php elgg_import_esm('page/elements/topbar'); echo elgg_format_element('div', ['class' =>... view reply
  • Wogker replied on the discussion topic CKEditor full options
    Wow Nikolai, You are a fucking machine, like always. Thanks again!  view reply
  • elggnoob added a new discussion topic Notification and E-Mail icons in topbar for mobile view? in the group Beginning Developers
    Hello, my site looks more and more like I envisioned it in January and I'm quite glad with my progression. One thing that I've been trying to figure out though - and failed to - is how to make the notification and e-mail icons in the...
    • Thanks for the start. I decided to post my train of thought here, because there is so little up-to-date information for Elgg 6 available online, and I thought that maybe my noob topics help others in the future. Someone please correct me, if something is wrong. Reminder: I have zero background in PHP programming. I learn everything about Elgg by trial&error and trying to understand what is happening in the code.

      First of all, the way how I understand things now, there are only two files needed for this situation:

      \vendor\elgg\elgg\views\default\page\elements\topbar.php (as posted by Nikolai)

      and

      \vendor\elgg\elgg\views\default\elements\layout\topbar.css

      I try to understand what everything in Nikolai's code does:

      elgg_import_esm('page/elements/topbar');

      I assume that this calls topbar.mjs to create the collapsing menu script.

      echo elgg_format_element('div', ['class' => 'elgg-nav-logo'], elgg_view('page/elements/header_logo'));

      This is the area where the website's name from the settings page is being shown. Alternatively, if you find the right place in CSS, I think you might be able to insert an image logo here instead, but this is not wanted in general, according to the code notes that I found in some file. ;)

      echo elgg_view('core/account/login_dropdown');

      This adds the login menu with its own dropdown area for visitors that are not logged in yet. It disappears when you are logged in.

      $search = elgg_format_element('div', [
       'class' => 'elgg-nav-search',
      ], elgg_view('search/search_box'));

      This creates the search field.

      $site_menu = elgg_view_menu('site', [
       'sort_by' => 'text',
      ]);

      This shows the main navigation in the topbar, which means the links to e.g. blog or pages.

      Note for later (and Nikolai): I hide this navigation in my individual layout!

      echo elgg_format_element('div', [
       'class' => 'elgg-nav-collapse',
      ], $search . $site_menu);

      This is where it starts to get a bit complicated. This area defines which areas of the topbar will be moved into the hamburger collapsing menu on mobile view (I think). In this case, it moves the search field and the site menu area (or in my case: only the search field).

      Now, on top of search and site menu, it also moves the topbar menu (this apparently automatically happens in mobile view as it's not called in the function above). That topbar menu is crucial to the topic of this thread. It's unclear to me how/where this is generated. I found some files for it (see below), but where do the actual links come from, e.g. to settings or profile? What I mean: If I would want to add a link to that menu, where would I do that? I haven't figured that one out yet.

      Either way, that topbar menu is a hover menu. I don't know what the official term for this is, so I continue with hover. It means that if I move the mouse over the menu (which says "Account"), a menu magically appears under it showing all the entries/links of that menu. Except, for reasons I haven't figured out yet as well, the message and notification links get moved out of that hover and get their own icons and fields in the menu on full web view. But as soon as you're in mobile view, the message and notifications icons disappear and get moved into the hover menu as well. This is supposed to happen. And this is exactly what I'm currently trying to change: I want those two icons to stay in the topbar as icons also in mobile view. More on that effort below.

      echo elgg_view_menu('topbar');

      This calls the above mentioned hover menu into the topbar.

      The notification icon comes from this file (I think):

      \vendor\elgg\elgg\mod\site_notifications\classes\Elgg\SiteNotifications\Menus\topbar.php

      The message icon comes from this file (I think):

      \vendor\elgg\elgg\mod\profile\classes\Elgg\Profile\Menus\topbar.php

      Both files don't seem to be needed in this case, as this indeed seems to be purely solvable in the CSS file. However, theoretically speaking, if one would create an additional topbar menu which would be shown next to the actual topbar menu, I would assume that you could move those two icons here to that new menu. However, you probably have to change a lot more, as this is Elgg and if I learned one thing during my first month with Elgg, it's that everything is at least 10 times more complicated than you think. ;) But at least I hope that my general line of thought is correct here.

      echo elgg_format_element('div', ['class' => 'elgg-nav-button'], '');

      This adds the "nav button" to the topbar. That "nav button" is the hamburger menu button which is being shown in mobile view.

      Now, in the topbar.css I mentioned above, I found various areas of this topbar.php page and was able to manipulate them for testing reasons, e.g. the width of things. I was able to make the "nav button" show all the time. I was able to make the message and notifications icons show larger, meaning with their link texts under them. I was also able to e.g. change the color of the hover areas. Through that I got an idea about what does what which is how I learn about Elgg.

      So far, so good. This is where I am at at the moment of writing this post. The answer lies in the CSS for @media. Patience, young padawan, would Obi-Wan Kenobi say.

      To Nikolai (in case you are reading this): I use the "Default plus" theme which is available for Elgg 6 on the elgg.org website. That theme uses the same code as the original topbar.php, except that the main menu navigation is hidden:

      elgg_import_esm('page/elements/topbar');
      
      echo elgg_format_element( 'div', ['class' => 'elgg-nav-logo'], elgg_view('page/elements/header_logo'));
      
      echo elgg_view('core/account/login_dropdown');
      
      echo elgg_format_element('div', ['class' => 'elgg-nav-button'], '<span></span><span></span><span></span>');
      
      $contents = elgg_format_element('div', ['class' => 'elgg-nav-search'], elgg_view('search/search_box'));
      // $contents .= elgg_view_menu('site', ['sort_by' => 'text']);
      $contents .= elgg_view_menu('topbar');
      
      echo elgg_format_element('div', ['class' => 'elgg-nav-collapse'], $contents);

      Would I be able to get the message and notifications icons shown in media view with this code or do I have to separate the $search and $site_menu nonetheless? I ask, because your code indeed, as you warned, breaks the navigation, but the Default Plus theme works as is. So it would be easier to build on that. From how I understand it, your code doesn't separate the notifications and messages icons from the topbar. The difference lies in the handling of search and main menu. Which both are not needed for my task.

      Do I thus assume correctly that what I try to achieve can be done by using the "Default Plus" theme + changes in the topbar.css? That would be most welcome. And please, let me know if anything in my above line of thought is incorrect. I want my noob posts to be helpful for other people as well.


       

    • but where do the actual links come from, e.g. to settings or profile?

      From register, menu:topbar event. 

      You can find all files using Developer Tools -> Inspect -> Events

      If I would want to add a link to that menu, where would I do that?

      In elgg-plugin.php or Bootstrap class of your custom plugin.

      You can unregister the exists events and/or add your own.

      Learn more

    • Would I be able to get the message and notifications icons shown in media view with this code or do I have to separate the $search and $site_menu nonetheless? 

      In my example, I just hid them under the navbar.

      Note: topbar has 2 sections "default" and "alt".

      The Messages and Notifications menu items are located in the default section.
       
      As I wrote above, you should solve this with the CSS code.

      Use your browser's developer tools (there is a mobile preview option).

      You can look at our demo and take the code from there, but you need to register on this site (there is an option to delete an account in the user settings).

  • Nikolai Shcherbin replied on the discussion topic No CSS applied to site
    Try disabling these settings on /admin/site_settings: Use simple cache Use system cache Then go back to Dashboard and run Upgrade. If everything worked, change the caching settings back and run Upgrade again. If this doesn't... view reply
  • Nikolai Shcherbin replied on the discussion topic CKEditor full options
    This is called "full" and "simple" editor type.  You just need to specify it to 'input/longtext' in the entity create/edit form. For example, for full type you don't need to specify anything, but for simple... view reply
  • Scott added a new discussion topic No CSS applied to site in the group General Discussion
    I’m new to Elgg, so maybe this is just a dumb move on my part.  I’ve installed a default instance of 6.1.3 and initially, all seemed good. Started playing around with the features and Admin options, then (I think) after...
    • Try disabling these settings on /admin/site_settings:

      • Use simple cache
      • Use system cache


      Then go back to Dashboard and run Upgrade.

      If everything worked, change the caching settings back and run Upgrade again.

      If this doesn't help and/or you get a message about the upgrade process being blocked, then check the permissions for /data directory on your server.

      Permissions should always be set for the server, i.e. www-data, http2 etc

      If you run something in the console as root, e.g. php elgg-cli or copy/create something in /data directory, then you may have such problems.

      Always change the permissions back with this command:

      chown -R www-data:www-data /path-to-your-data/

      Learn this also: 1, 2, 3

      Tip: use this plugin if you need to control files in your /dataroot directory.

    • Thanks for the quick reply, Nikolai!

      Unfortunately, my problem persists.

      Doing the .. disable-cache, upgrade, enable-cache, upgrade .. all seemed to succeed (no errors), but the CSS is still missing. The permissions on my data directory look fine (and files are being written in there). I haven’t really done anything at the command line or made any changes other than the few changes in the Admin / Settings. This is a very vanilla installation.

      I reviewed the other links you provided, and none really apply to my situation.

      My “production” installation still seems to be working (although I haven’t touched the cache settings). I’m wondering if something has just become corrupted in the “dev” installation. I think I’ll flatten it and reinstall, and then see if I can reproduce the problem. If I can’t reproduce the issue, I’ll just chalk it off to some random corruption. Will let you know how it all goes.

      Thanks!

  • Wogker added a new discussion topic CKEditor full options in the group Elgg Technical Support
    Hi all, an old Elgg user here! :) My site uses an old Elgg (4.3.10) and I'm very happy with it, everything works great. The full version of CKEditor appears correctly in Blogs, Polls, Videos and Photo Albums. No problem here. However, I...
  • joão gomes de souza replied on the discussion topic the wire plugin on the home page
    Excelent @rivervanrain  Thanks view reply